Unfortunately it doesn’t appear I can view the custom nozzle information. Does anyone know how to view it?
@lford. That’s about 35% higher than the 1.4in/he default. It may be a factor but I doubt it’s the biggest one. Maybe @brad can give more insight. I don’t have much experience with As Needed.
Do you use the web app a lot? Sometimes advanced settings can get inadvertently reduced if you use the scroll wheel on your mouse. That was the case with some users here
I use a combination of both. I have verified all settings are correct and were not inadvertently adjusted.
@lford Do you have other non-grass zones in this schedule? The only thing I can think is that one of your other zones is forcing the schedule from a 2 day interval to an everyday, which is cutting your run time in half. We’re working on messaging this in the app, but for WAN schedules, they need to be separated into different schedules by plant type for them to be most effective. In either case, if you’re plants aren’t getting enough water you can increase the duration in minutes within the edit schedule screen.
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I do. I have one for shrubs and one for trees in the schedule. I will work on separating them tonight and see what happens with the watering times. Is this an issue with the Flex schedule as well?
Took some time at work to switch it - don’t tell my boss. 
I separated out the different zones (1-5 grass, 6 trees, 7 shrubs) and setup separate schedules for all of them. The watering times greatly increased for each zone. The grass went from 3 minutes to 8 minutes (this is what was pretty close to what Flex was using).
This appears to have fixed the watering duration issue. One issue when doing this is that I have two grass zones in " some shade" and the as-needed schedule wanted to water the “some shade” zones a minute more then the “lots of sun” zones. That doesn’t make any sense to me. Is it supposed to work that way?
I would be willing to bet you have a fescue or bluegrass lawn. We have higher winds than this in Oklahoma City and bermudagrass does fine. Try mowing higher,too.
No that doesn’t make sense 
Let me check with @franz tomorrow. Glad to hear that grouping the zones seemed to do the trick for the duration issue. Did it also change the grass to every 2 days?
No, the grass is still scheduled for everyday.
The trees and shrubs are about every 6 days now.
@lford The one minute difference could just be a slight rounding display since we only show minutes and not seconds. It could be a few seconds difference.
Exposure might slightly affect duration, but largely affects the watering intervals since we use exposure as an offset of crop coefficient. (less exposure pulls down the crop coefficient, which pulls down your daily ET…i.e. the plant is transpiring less per day, so needs to water less frequently)
For a test, I created one zone with lots of sun and it is going to run for 37 minutes, every 8 days. I also created a mostly shade zone that runs for 37 minutes and waters every 5 days.
Hope this helps.
The grass is still scheduled for every day in lieu of every other day. Is that a bug as well or is it due to my soil parameters - it seems like an awful lot of watering? (I just made a new grass schedule and it is scheduling for every day watering as well.)
First of all, I’m a big fan of what Rachio and what you guys are doing, but I’m disheartened with WAN schedules.At first I put all my zones in one big schedule and Rachio setup a watering schedule for all zones every x days – all of them at the same interval. But if I split out each type (grass/shrub) and each sunlight (lots/shade) into different schedules, the daily intervals for each are different.
So this doesn’t work as I’d expect. I’d expect that when each zone needs water, it gets water, no matter the day or schedule. I’m not sure why I’m needing to split all this out.
@pclaar Flex schedules work similiar to what you described, and they will be fully re-introduced with our next software release. Each zone runs as an autonomous entity. If you’d like to add some and try them out you can add them here https://flex-app.rach.io and then edit in our normal web app or mobile apps. Here is some more context and information around flex schedules.
http://community.rachio.com/t/flex-schedules-community-future/3828/2
http://community.rachio.com/t/flex-schedule-guidelines-and-documentation/3799/1
@franz Thanks for the quick reply. I’m not on the forums much so I’m sure that this has been hashed out again and again, but I’d love to just setup each zone (vegetation/soil/sun) and Rachio just waters things when (if) it needs it. Looks like Flex is the way to go. For the consumer, I think the differentiation between these types of watering schedules can get confusing. You know much more about your market than I do, but I bet most people would go for an automagic mode…
Thanks!
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@lford I believe this is due to your soil parameters. If you do find it’s too much water, I would suggest reducing minutes in the edit schedule duration screen as you see fit.
are you still having issue? Ditch wan and go back to flex. Wan was way tooooo frequent for me.
Also is the San in your loam fine or course? If,it is fine I would suggest moving your awc in flex up some, like .1
Thank you for the reference material! The loam is very fine, so I am going to play with Flex again this weekend. I am still not happy with WAN.